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host and we have Grant Cameron on this

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evening Grant was uh he was on early in

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the shows oh I think uh you know the

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show has been going 11 years now and I

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think he was one of the first I don't

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know four or five people to be on my

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show and uh he's always very interesting

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I was fascinated at the subject he was

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involved in at the time and that was the

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connection between U.S presidents and

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UFOs which I think is only kind of grown

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over the last uh several uh you know

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presidents uh it you know there seems to

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be a lot of unanswered questions and

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there's people like my friend Ben uh out

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in Ben Hansen out in California that did

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body language studies of uh Obama and

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I'm trying to think who else it was that

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he did uh looked at their body language

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when they were talking about what they

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knew about you know extraterrestrials or

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aliens or UFOs things like that very

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fascinating anyway so Grant Cameron is

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coming up uh the blog this week

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by Charles Lear is UFO Abduction claims

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at the end of the 1970s of course Travis

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Walton's incident is in there and uh

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several others at very interesting blog

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check it out over at podcast ufo.com and

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you can help support the show also over

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there uh we have the patreon page and uh

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any support would be helpful

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um you know it's uh the expenses of the

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show do add up I don't like to talk

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about them but they do add up I just

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went over just the graphics alone or

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about uh four thousand a year so any

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help that you can give would be

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appreciated and I am ready to bring

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um the guests in Grant welcome back I

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should say it's been a long time Grant

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yeah welcome thank you for having me on

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Martin I appreciate your interest in

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your long-running show it's one of the

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one of the ones that just survived

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that's right that's right and uh like I

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was saying I think you were on right in

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the very early part of it right like I

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must have a million listeners by now I

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don't know they come and go

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but uh the uh you were doing that work

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on the presidents I thought that was

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fascinating and you know before we get

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into we're going to talk about the

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report that just came up before we get

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um did you ever see any of those like

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the body language things that Ben Hansen

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did yeah uh I was actually working with

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him at the time he did Clinton he did

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Obama and then he also did Clinton when

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Obama when he did um the little

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six-year-old girl if you ever saw that

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episode on on the Ellen show and that's

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the one where I didn't pick it up where

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he picked up the fact that Obama was

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reading off the teleprompter and when he

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actually showed it to me he showed me

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the actual cue card that they were using

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for her because she of course at six

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years old she really couldn't read and

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they had like little pictures to show

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her what to say and Obama is clear he

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was reading off a teleprompter so that

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whole thing was planned it was It was

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kind of kind of interesting to be there

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and so every time something would happen

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I'd say to Ben okay analyze this one

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what do you think of this one

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yeah it was pretty interesting wow wow

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um and then but you what was the name of

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the book you did on that particular

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subject was it the White House and UFOs

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about the fact that I believed that they

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it used to be called UFOs Area 51 and uh

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government informants but it's it's in

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that sort of category there's two a

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reprint of it where we took some stuff

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it's all sort of held up this idea that

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um there's been behind the scenes

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uh disclosure and now we actually know

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for a fact that if uh According to Jim

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semivan that he actually went to the

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higher level the highest levels of the

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three-letter agencies and said you guys

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can't get this out we're gonna drop it

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we're not going to release any

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classified material but we're dropping

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this thing and uh so he's pretty clear

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that that that whole initiative with Tom

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dong was all partly planned and and uh

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and he said um the the big man in

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Washington and that was that was Jim

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semivan and he was telling me oh they're

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gonna they're going public with this

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um they've they they're good the high

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number of high-level officials are going

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to uh come forward and they're going to

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say UFOs exist and they're going to

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force disclosure and that was in about

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2015 2016 and that's exactly what

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happened you had Elizondo you had melon

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said UFOs exist and they actually did

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force it out in terms of the New York

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Times article and nothing's ever been

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the same since that New York Times

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article that's right yeah it's been uh

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there's the people that are getting

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involved in looking at this is

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unprecedented you know scientists and

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you know people that would never dare to

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think about it uh before so the stigma

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is is that's the one you know we may not

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get information but that's one good

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thing that came out of it all so far and

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people in the background that's one of

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the reasons I wrote an article called

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the 64 reasons they decided not to tell

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you the truth and and one of the reasons

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that I had is that the people that you'd

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call The Invisible college or whoever

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you want they're sitting in the

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background and they're all trying to get

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a patent that they're not going to

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release anything until they because I've

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seen some of the money that's involved

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what one particular invention that was

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him I had contacts with him and um the

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money that he made from that one

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invention that he got was just

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astronomical and I was talking to him

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about uh that that that download because

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I had done a whole book called inspired

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the Paranormal world of creativity and

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download experience how he got because I

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knew that he got the idea in the morning

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when he woke up that idea was in his

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head that they put on the space shuttle

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and um he said to me Grant he says I can

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tell you what he says the last thing I

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remember the night before the night the

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night before I woke up was a hooded

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figure standing at the end of the bed

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and I said really could you see its face

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and he said no I couldn't see his face

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and that's exactly what Jim semivan has

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now described the hooded figure coming

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effort is that most of these people with

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so they're digging and they're

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scratching just like you and I trying to

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figure out what's going on and they're

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trying to get stuff from the people

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has to do with patents because whoever

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controls this militarily will run the

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world but whoever gets uh some of this

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technology that's involved and gets it

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patented is going to be worth a lot of

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money in the millions and millions of

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know if they could they could patent

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some of the what the craft has been

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the g-forces never mind uh uh being

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that's when I I get into the whole issue

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I've been discussing lately is what are

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actually dealing with nuts and bolts

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this thing called the theory of wow

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where a lot of the stuff they do they

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just do just to make us go wow and make

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us try to figure out what's going on and

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and drag us down the rabbit hole and the

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one was the the whole Nimitz encounter

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uh where they dropped from 80 000 feet

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second I mean and I say like what is

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that a pre-abduction maneuver or like

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whatever that's they're showing off

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that's all they're doing watch this

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because that's exactly what happened it

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got me involved in the field is this

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the whole idea is you start to wonder is

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this really nuts and bolts or is this uh

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a little bit beyond almost like para

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material and you see you can see a lot

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of scientists are now getting into this

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thing of Consciousness that uh

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they can control all this kind of stuff

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and it's not quite as physical as we

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might think it is that's where I'm going

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and I know Ray Hernandez has moved in

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that direction and if you look at Joe

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Chris bledso has moved in that direction

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and more and more people you see are

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sort of uh starting to say that this is

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going to be as I say it's going to be a

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thousand times more complex than people

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one piece to go and the more I look at

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it after almost 50 years the more you

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look at it the more pieces seem to be

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missing that there's just so much

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material and it's so complex as to

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what's going on here I I do believe

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you're right as far as it being complex

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action probably something we may not

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even be able to understand I mean that

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is a very big possibility but the one

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thing about the Consciousness thing that

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doesn't seem to make sense to me is uh

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what about Mass sightings you know when

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there's uh and

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how can these things be seen on

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you know with multiple detection radar

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video etc etc when it comes to a

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Consciousness Connection

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okay well again it comes down to the

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whole idea of what what Einstein said

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I'd like to know the Moon is behind me

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When I'm Not Looking this idea that it's

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a collective

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um

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complex in the in terms of the

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Consciousness but the things that you

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see that that

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um that that show you that there's

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simply no way that this is is is is what

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we think it is is I just wrote this book

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called the UFO Sky Palace where I look

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at 36 people who all make this bizarre

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claim that they flew the craft and uh

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these none of this was on the internet

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before so it's not like they were

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reading anybody else's story I'm the

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only one that had the stories and they

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would describe cases that hell putoff

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said hell putoff said for example he

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said I'd like to know

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how can the craft be bigger on the

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inside than it is on the outside and Len

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Stringfield actually had a 1974 report

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that was in one of his things where he

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talked about a guy being flown in from

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Hawaii to film the panels inside the

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craft and he said the craft was about 30

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feet across it was being it was being

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hanging from a net netting on a crane

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and inside of netting on it from a crane

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and he went inside and he said you could

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have taken a football and thrown it in

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every direction uh and not hit a wall it

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was that big or Terry lovely said it was

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the size of a football stadium inside

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Chris bledso most of them will say this

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that they can make it as big as they

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want on on the inside of the craft and

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that's what hell putoff said I mean I'd

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like to know how it can be bigger on the

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inside and you see even on the ground

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this this photographer this is a 1974

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case this is not something that somebody

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has made up since I put the book out uh

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that says the craft is bigger on the

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inside than it is outside and that the

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beings say they can make it as big as

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they want and the woman that originally

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told me this first story about flying

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the craft said they have crafts that are

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as big as so solar system so they can

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make it as big as they want they can

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control it and when you see that kind of

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stuff then you start to go like

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something something's wrong here

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something doesn't make sense or you know

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the the idea where people are inside the

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craft and

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um

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you know they they they will claim that

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they are told that you have to imagine

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where you want to go you put your hand

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on a panel you put your hand on a ball

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you become one with the craft the craft

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is alive whatever you think is what the

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craft does and then the beings will say

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it is within you go within yourself

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that's where it is go within yourself

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and and the one guy described he's a

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Mormon guy out of uh uh the Salt Lake

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City area he said I wanted to go and I

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wanted to see the Milky Way From a

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Distance he said in one second he

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imagined this in his mind he said in one

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second he looked out the window of The

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Craft and there was a Milky Way in a

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distance and I say if that story is true

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and yeah they actually uh this distance

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thing took place then there's something

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seriously wrong with our ideas of time

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and space and and the more that's what I

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say the more you look at it the more

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complex it gets it who's the Observer

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because people say well there can't be

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an observer but we already know that

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matter does not come into reality until

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there's an observer until the quantum

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wave is broken down until there's a

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measurement and the men measurement is

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done by a Consciousness and so we know

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that that Max Planck who started quantum

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physics said Consciousness is primary

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there's no getting behind Consciousness

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and that's something that I think almost

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all the early quantum physics guys

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whether it was uh Schrodinger or uh

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these guys uh Bohr and all these people

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they all believe Consciousness was

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primary that Consciousness creates

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matter and that's the whole the whole

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deal is we've bought into this material

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world and we think that that material

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world creates Consciousness that when it

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gets complex enough then suddenly you

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know the the uh the Consciousness jumps

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out and says here I am and then that's

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definitely what I'm I'm looking at is is

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definitely not what's happening that

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that you have um

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uh this this the idea that even an auto

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body experience and I don't know if

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you've interviewed people not about

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experiences but so you go out of your

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body you're floating above your body and

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you look back at your body and we think

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that the brain has Consciousness but you

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look back at your body and you say is

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the brain kind of causing Consciousness

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no I'm the Consciousness I'm here I'm

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floating up above my body which means

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your brain and your your your your your

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your body is inside your Consciousness

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then that that person can look outside

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the window and they can see the the

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stars in the planet well that you seem

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to indicate that the the stars and the

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planets are inside the Consciousness as

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well almost like Deepak Chopra says

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everything is an activity inside

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Consciousness the more you look at it

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the more that's a pure is what it'd be

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especially when you get the beings say

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to the people it is within you until you

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imagine it inside your mind you can it

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will not work and they and people will

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say instantaneously they're they can go

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wherever they want on the other side of

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the universe whatever and that's the

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kind of stuff that and these are people

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uh you know UFOs Air Force

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kernel uh you know 747 uh uh pilot all

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these different people that they're all

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basically tell the same story it's

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almost like they're reading off a cue

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card where you know the the

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Consciousness is is the way they they

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basically say that's how you move the

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craft around is with Consciousness and

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that the craft is alive and this Oneness

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principle that links that locks us into

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the Earth that we cannot leave the

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planet not because there's a big bubble

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around us but because this whole idea of

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Oneness the fact that everything is is

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connected uh is how we get off the

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planet and we just don't believe it we

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believe everything's separate we believe

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there's there's separate objects and

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there's a there's an observable World

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outside ourselves

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and And yet when you when you start

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looking at what these people are saying

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that that's not what you that's not what

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they're they're describing they're

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describing this this world where

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everything is is is connected everything

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is one everything's alive and that once

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you understand that idea then you can

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move around almost like Jan Hartson if

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you remember Jan Hartson is talking to

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Ben Rich at Lockheed Skunk Works and Ben

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says we've now discovered the mistaken

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the equation we've got the technology to

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take ET home and Jen Hartson of course

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he has an experience as a young kid so

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he goes running up and he says I want to

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be a an engineer I want to build a

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flying saucer how did it get here how

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did it get here Ben and Ben turns around

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and says what do you know about ESP and

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he said it means everything in time and

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space is connected and rich said that's

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how it works walks out of the building

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gets in his car and drives off so that's

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what you get is this idea even Eric

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Walker who we we dealt with back in the

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1990s that's what he asked us at one

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point what do you know about ESP unless

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you understand about ESP and how it

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works you will not be taken in by the

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control system very few people

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understand how it works or Tom Delong

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talking to the Head scientists at

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Lockheed Skunk Works inside this skiff

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and he had the guy says how does it get

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here how do they how does it work and he

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was hanging around with Guru at the time

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so he says oh I think Consciousness is

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involved and then the head scientist

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said now you're talking and tell him so

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long said that's all the guy I wanted to

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talk about for 45 minutes was

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Consciousness this is the the critical

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thing that I think is is sort of

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changing in terms of people starting to

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wonder like why are all UF why are all

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alien sightings like people say oh the

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grades are all the same I did a

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PowerPoint one time where I took all the

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Grays I could find like bit Andrea since

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gray and Whitley streamers gray and and

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the hills and Nancy Tremaine and I put

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all these Grays one after another at

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least drawings and there was no two the

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same and we always make these

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assumptions oh it's all the same and or

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my friend has a sighting uh you asked

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about people having common sightings my

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friend here is a big business guy in

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Winnipeg he's very very well off guy and

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he had two sightings and the second one

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he had he lives right on the on the

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river and he said he sees this thing

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flying by and he gets his wife says come

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on come on come out and there's they

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have another level of uh two they have

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two uh patios she goes on the bottom

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patio and she looks out and she says

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yeah okay and so do you see this UFO and

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then years later he's telling the story

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at a cocktail party or something and he

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said someone says well what is that

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thing like and he said oh it was like it

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was like it was on fire and it was

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rolling and and and it was going down

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the river and his wife said it was not

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he said yeah I was it was like a fire it

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was like it was like like burning oil

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and she said it was not it was a flank

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saucer it was a metal Flying Saucer and

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he said it was so here again you got two

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people who had to have viewed this thing

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for a couple of minutes and it had

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totally different views of what they had

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seen that's not uncommon I've heard that

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before and that's where it gets so

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complex you start wondering why is it

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even the these sightings if you take a

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look at like I show before 1961 there's

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uh somebody put out a camera who put it

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out uh whether it was mifon or whether

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it was schustler or somebody put out all

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the sightings of of alien uh encounters

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before Betty and Barney Hill and that's

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when the grace appeared and what you see

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is there there's no two the same

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absolutely there's no two the same and

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what you get in the 1940s and 50s is

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these descriptions of aliens with bubble

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helmets and and hoses going down to a

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tank on their back and this is straight

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out of out of a science fiction cartoons

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and stuff from the 1940s and 50s and you

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could see we're being influenced by by

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what we're you know what what what's in

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our mind almost like the 1890s the ships

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were wouldn't wouldn't ships with

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propellers on them and they said they

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were from Mars and now they then they

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then they changed it and they said oh

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we're after Mars we're from Zeta

541
00:19:59,390 --> 00:19:57,720
reticuli and then everybody started

542
00:20:00,529 --> 00:19:59,400
learning about multi-dimensions and now

543
00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:00,539
they say oh we're from The Fifth

544
00:20:04,130 --> 00:20:02,280
Dimension we're from the Tenth Dimension

545
00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:04,140
and it just it just keeps changing as

546
00:20:07,610 --> 00:20:06,120
they go along and and that's that's

547
00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,620
where I say the more I look at it the

548
00:20:11,870 --> 00:20:09,720
more complex it gets and the more it

549
00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:11,880
just it doesn't make sense that it's

550
00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:15,059
some objective thing that that is there

551
00:20:18,650 --> 00:20:17,220
and that we can measure and stuff and

552
00:20:20,330 --> 00:20:18,660
that's when you if you look at even a

553
00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:20,340
Jim semivan who's gotten the UFO

554
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:22,620
briefing and I don't know what level he

555
00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:24,000
got it at but that's what he said not

556
00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:25,860
not only can we not connect the dots I'm

557
00:20:29,810 --> 00:20:27,960
not even sure there's dots he said I

558
00:20:31,549 --> 00:20:29,820
don't think there's any there there when

559
00:20:34,430 --> 00:20:31,559
you hear a high level guy like that talk

560
00:20:36,049 --> 00:20:34,440
you start to realize that that at the

561
00:20:37,789 --> 00:20:36,059
highest levels they may not understand

562
00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:37,799
that and that may be what the cover-up's

563
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,960
all about that's maybe what this this we

564
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,760
were going to talk about this uh this

565
00:20:45,650 --> 00:20:43,919
report and what I see this report is

566
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,660
about is they're fighting back now the

567
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:47,520
guys on the inside and they're starting

568
00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:49,440
to change the words in this final report

569
00:20:52,490 --> 00:20:50,760
where they're they're taking out the

570
00:20:53,870 --> 00:20:52,500
alien words and they you know the

571
00:20:55,810 --> 00:20:53,880
Extraterrestrial words and all this kind

572
00:20:58,610 --> 00:20:55,820
of stuff and they're putting in that

573
00:21:00,529 --> 00:20:58,620
they couldn't change darial to anomaly

574
00:21:02,270 --> 00:21:00,539
yeah so they're doing it so they can

575
00:21:04,370 --> 00:21:02,280
they can it's almost like people don't

576
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,380
realize that you the return UFO was

577
00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:06,480
established by the US Air Force in 1952

578
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,980
because they used to be called flying

579
00:21:10,909 --> 00:21:09,600
saucers and flying discs and the Air

580
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,919
Force didn't want them called Flying

581
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:12,240
sausage and flying discs so they called

582
00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:13,919
it UFOs because then it can be anything

583
00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:15,660
you want and they're doing the same

584
00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:17,580
thing they're backing away from it but

585
00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:19,260
what I think they're they're indirectly

586
00:21:24,529 --> 00:21:22,679
doing is the black world is so uh stove

587
00:21:25,789 --> 00:21:24,539
piped it's so compartmentalized that

588
00:21:27,470 --> 00:21:25,799
they could not figure this thing out if

589
00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:27,480
you listen to Eric Walker or Eric Davis

590
00:21:31,130 --> 00:21:29,159
Eric Davis said they took it off the

591
00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:31,140
shelf in 1989 they take it off the shelf

592
00:21:34,850 --> 00:21:32,820
every seven or eight years they just

593
00:21:36,409 --> 00:21:34,860
can't figure this out the core story is

594
00:21:37,789 --> 00:21:36,419
they can't figure this out and it's

595
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,799
because it's got this Consciousness

596
00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:40,080
interface thing to it and and so they're

597
00:21:45,289 --> 00:21:41,880
not really getting anywhere

598
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,299
and uh you so you you have this this

599
00:21:51,049 --> 00:21:48,480
situation where uh they're struggling

600
00:21:52,669 --> 00:21:51,059
and then the Black Ops people uh may

601
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,679
have given some approval to do this

602
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,240
because what they're doing is they're

603
00:21:57,649 --> 00:21:56,159
allowing the white world to get involved

604
00:21:59,330 --> 00:21:57,659
see then you get you get Harvard

605
00:22:00,590 --> 00:21:59,340
involved you get all these people and

606
00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:00,600
they start talking and they start

607
00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:02,580
putting out stuff and now you can grab

608
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,200
this material and it's all going to go

609
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:05,520
black and it's all going to go black

610
00:22:09,289 --> 00:22:07,500
back into the black ops world and it's

611
00:22:11,690 --> 00:22:09,299
not coming out so people will say oh we

612
00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:11,700
got this thing for you know you can get

613
00:22:16,010 --> 00:22:13,559
immunity and stuff like that but it's

614
00:22:18,909 --> 00:22:16,020
never going to come out there is no way

615
00:22:22,610 --> 00:22:18,919
that the the uh sensitive

616
00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:22,620
compartmentalized Information Program is

617
00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:24,900
going they're going to say this is what

618
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,280
we know about UFOs and this is where

619
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:27,600
we're testing them there's you're not

620
00:22:30,289 --> 00:22:28,799
going to tell the Russians you're not

621
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,299
going to tell the Chinese it's going to

622
00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:32,880
be it's going to be classified so yeah

623
00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:34,620
you got you've got immunity but you've

624
00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:36,840
got immunity to talk to the Congress you

625
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:38,460
got immunity to talk to the Pentagon

626
00:22:40,909 --> 00:22:39,600
who's trying to gather this stuff all

627
00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:40,919
together but it doesn't mean you can go

628
00:22:44,270 --> 00:22:42,539
into the public I say what's going to go

629
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,280
into the public and exactly what you've

630
00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:45,840
seen in the last report absolutely

631
00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:47,640
nothing in fact we are farther behind

632
00:22:51,950 --> 00:22:50,280
than we were in 1969 when they shut Blue

633
00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:51,960
Book down because when the shutdown Blue

634
00:22:55,370 --> 00:22:53,640
Book you had the UFO sightings and you

635
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,380
had the shapes now you say what's the

636
00:22:58,370 --> 00:22:56,880
shape somebody asked what's the shape of

637
00:23:00,049 --> 00:22:58,380
these objects they said can't tell you

638
00:23:01,430 --> 00:23:00,059
it's classified we don't have the shapes

639
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,440
we don't have any reports we don't have

640
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,880
anything all we got is a number so they

641
00:23:06,289 --> 00:23:04,799
keep giving it a number and it's 360 or

642
00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:06,299
whatever this time next time it'll be

643
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,100
578 everybody gets excited oh there's

644
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,600
more and more and more but what have you

645
00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:10,799
learned you've learned absolutely

646
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,840
nothing they're just playing this game

647
00:23:16,610 --> 00:23:14,880
where they're every and as soon as

648
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,620
somebody gets something in the white

649
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,480
world where it's it's they understand

650
00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:21,120
that this is going to be usable they're

651
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:22,260
just going to walk in with a national

652
00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:23,880
security order and say this is now

653
00:23:26,810 --> 00:23:25,500
National Security quit talking about it

654
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,820
and they're going to grab it and take it

655
00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:28,559
into the black world there's no way the

656
00:23:32,029 --> 00:23:30,419
black world is going to release this

657
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:32,039
stuff as long as they don't have it

658
00:23:36,169 --> 00:23:33,360
figured out even the Wilson leak

659
00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:36,179
document which I was partly responsible

660
00:23:39,649 --> 00:23:37,740
for leaking at the end of the Wilson

661
00:23:41,690 --> 00:23:39,659
leak document it says we have a craft

662
00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:41,700
and we think it'll fly and as soon as I

663
00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:43,620
I saw that of it I know what's going on

664
00:23:48,169 --> 00:23:46,020
they've got to craft an intact craft

665
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,179
that they were given and they cannot

666
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,159
turn it on because you need as the

667
00:23:54,049 --> 00:23:52,080
people who fly the craft you have to put

668
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,059
your hand on a panel you have to have

669
00:23:57,649 --> 00:23:55,679
the Consciousness interface the same as

670
00:23:59,810 --> 00:23:57,659
putting your thumbprint on a cell phone

671
00:24:01,130 --> 00:23:59,820
they can't turn the craft on because

672
00:24:02,570 --> 00:24:01,140
it's got this Consciousness interface

673
00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:02,580
and they can't they can't figure this

674
00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:08,990
wow interesting well I I sort of I well

675
00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:11,220
I basically agree with you when it comes

676
00:24:15,049 --> 00:24:13,740
to uh you know I mean

677
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:15,059
I don't know if we're going to know

678
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,320
anything about it

679
00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:19,200
I I I've said you know many times in the

680
00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:20,520
show that I don't know if I'll ever know

681
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:24,059
in my lifetime you know because uh

682
00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:25,980
because I don't think anyone really does

683
00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:28,740
know exactly what's going on that's what

684
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:31,860
the way I've always felt and why would

685
00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:33,780
they say you know why would they keep

686
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:35,460
saying they don't know what's going on

687
00:24:40,970 --> 00:24:38,880
in our skies so yeah well we are

688
00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:40,980
learning some stuff I was just on a show

689
00:24:48,649 --> 00:24:43,380
earlier and was asked you know why did

690
00:24:54,169 --> 00:24:52,909
go ahead no no I I know I I just um I

691
00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:54,179
think we're learning stuff I'm actually

692
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:57,059
more encouraged by what I've learned in

693
00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:58,320
the last little while once we got

694
00:25:01,730 --> 00:24:59,580
started going down the Consciousness

695
00:25:03,409 --> 00:25:01,740
route and we started comparing all this

696
00:25:05,390 --> 00:25:03,419
stuff for example inside the craft

697
00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:05,400
people will say

698
00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:07,380
um they get in they get all these sort

699
00:25:11,270 --> 00:25:09,480
of spiritual components that seem to

700
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,280
link into other things so the person's

701
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,720
on the craft and they'll say as soon as

702
00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:14,100
I put my hand on the panel I can

703
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:16,500
suddenly see in 360 Degrees which is

704
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:17,880
another thing if you're going to make up

705
00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:19,140
a story that's not something you want to

706
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,820
put in your story that people are not

707
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,320
going to believe you and so why would

708
00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:24,000
you put that in there but that's the

709
00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:25,380
same thing that people in auto body

710
00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:26,940
experiences and near-death experiences

711
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,159
describe oh I could see everything in I

712
00:25:34,610 --> 00:25:31,679
could I could see 360 degrees or the

713
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,620
person will say there is um I I was

714
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:36,480
taken to the spirit world Chris Bledsoe

715
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:38,460
told me no no it was the guy from Utah

716
00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:40,200
told me he said I was taken to the

717
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:42,120
spirit world three times and the third

718
00:25:44,690 --> 00:25:43,620
time I was with my dead mother I was

719
00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,700
actually with her I was walking around

720
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,440
with her I could see her or whatever and

721
00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:48,000
they took me to this building it looked

722
00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:49,500
like it was a very Mormon guy he said it

723
00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:52,620
looked like a a temple in Nephi Utah and

724
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:55,080
my mother said when you die Ron you're

725
00:25:58,190 --> 00:25:56,700
going to have a a room in this building

726
00:25:59,570 --> 00:25:58,200
and you can see the building sort of

727
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,580
open up I could see his father in the

728
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,960
building and stuff like this and he said

729
00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:02,820
I went into the building he said and it

730
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:05,159
was like a hundred times bigger 10 to

731
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:06,960
100 times bigger on the inside than it

732
00:26:10,250 --> 00:26:08,580
was outside and I said hey that's

733
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:10,260
exactly what Christmas said that's

734
00:26:13,370 --> 00:26:11,580
exactly what the UEFA people say when

735
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:13,380
they get inside the craft it's bigger so

736
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,700
what's what's the connection you see

737
00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:17,279
this this sort of bizarre crossover

738
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:19,020
connection that they're describing the

739
00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:20,700
same thing or people in near-death

740
00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:23,400
experiences or UFO experiences will say

741
00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:26,100
uh there's I think it was 40 percent of

742
00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:28,020
them at the free survey said at one

743
00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:29,400
point during their experience they knew

744
00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:30,600
the answer to everything in the universe

745
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:31,860
and I've actually talked to these people

746
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:33,299
because I said you know this is not

747
00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:34,440
something you really want to make up if

748
00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:35,880
you're going to make up a story that I

749
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:36,900
knew everything in the universe and I

750
00:26:39,529 --> 00:26:38,039
would say that how do you know there

751
00:26:40,909 --> 00:26:39,539
wasn't like number six seven eight on

752
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,919
the far side of the University forgot to

753
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:42,480
tell you about and they will say exactly

754
00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:43,860
what any person who's had a download

755
00:26:48,049 --> 00:26:46,140
will say they'll say I'm not sure I just

756
00:26:49,789 --> 00:26:48,059
know that I knew everything and when you

757
00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:49,799
look at out of near-death experience

758
00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:52,260
it's 31 percent of people say at one

759
00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:53,460
point during their experience they knew

760
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:54,539
the answer to everything in the universe

761
00:26:58,730 --> 00:26:56,340
which kind of indicates that everything

762
00:27:00,769 --> 00:26:58,740
is maybe in a field and it's the ability

763
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:00,779
to access the field almost like Tesla

764
00:27:03,529 --> 00:27:02,220
getting in the field pulling the

765
00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:03,539
material and bring it back into the

766
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:04,980
world so you start to see these

767
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:06,960
crossovers of of things between

768
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,820
near-death experiences or a lot of the

769
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,559
people describe the the head of mufon

770
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,480
for for Japan I don't know if you've

771
00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:13,919
ever interviewed him I mean he was a

772
00:27:19,549 --> 00:27:16,020
meditation expert in Washington state

773
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:19,559
moved to Japan uh he's had 22 encounters

774
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:22,799
at 22 events in 2022 he said every

775
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:23,820
single one of them was out of Body

776
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,320
Experience he said absolutely because he

777
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:27,600
learned how to do it and he would go and

778
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,820
the craft he's engaged with the with the

779
00:27:33,169 --> 00:27:31,679
Grays he describes the same thing the

780
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,179
craft is as big as they want us to be

781
00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:34,799
they just put their hand up and a book

782
00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:36,360
comes out of the wall he describes all

783
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:37,860
this bizarre stuff but you start to see

784
00:27:41,390 --> 00:27:39,720
this over and over again and and you

785
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:41,400
there's all these crossovers with all

786
00:27:44,269 --> 00:27:42,480
these other things like Autobody

787
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,279
experiences near-death experiences and

788
00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:45,840
that's what Ray Hernandez was told when

789
00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:48,120
he had his experience when before just

790
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:49,620
when he started free when he started

791
00:27:52,909 --> 00:27:51,000
when I off the deep end and was only

792
00:27:54,289 --> 00:27:52,919
sleeping two hours a day that he was

793
00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:54,299
taken and he was showing this spinning

794
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,220
wheel and it had remote viewing and

795
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,840
near-death experiences and auto body

796
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:00,000
experiences and UFOs and stuff and the

797
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:01,679
being said you've got to quit parsing

798
00:28:06,529 --> 00:28:04,380
this stuff it's all the same thing and

799
00:28:08,029 --> 00:28:06,539
that's what I've concluded as well is if

800
00:28:09,409 --> 00:28:08,039
Consciousness is primary it's all

801
00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:09,419
Consciousness that's coming out of this

802
00:28:12,890 --> 00:28:11,220
Consciousness field and what they're

803
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,900
doing is they're showing us this stuff

804
00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:14,880
to give us the syndication and there's

805
00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:16,140
more and more people jumping on the

806
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:18,419
bandwagon all the time that that realize

807
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:20,340
that if Consciousness is primary that's

808
00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:22,860
what I was told uh in one other download

809
00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:24,900
experience if the world is made out of

810
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,700
little nuts and bolts then that's one

811
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:28,620
world but if the world is made out of

812
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,260
Consciousness Everything Changes

813
00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:33,360
Everything and that's true Everything

814
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:35,940
Will Change all the rules change

815
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:38,520
hmm wow

816
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,200
um I don't know how much we touched on

817
00:28:45,649 --> 00:28:43,440
the report or that we have plenty we're

818
00:28:48,890 --> 00:28:45,659
talking about here that's uh kind of

819
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:48,900
woven in and out of it but uh so are you

820
00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:51,240
familiar with this question someone said

821
00:28:57,289 --> 00:28:54,659
ask why Jimmy Blanchette UFO discoveries

822
00:28:59,330 --> 00:28:57,299
are being ignored even by UFO groups are

823
00:29:01,850 --> 00:28:59,340
you familiar with that person yeah I've

824
00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:01,860
done interviews with him he has he's

825
00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:03,960
come up with a system uh where he links

826
00:29:06,769 --> 00:29:05,400
everything together like you're familiar

827
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:06,779
with the unit with the universal

828
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,700
constants you know the speed of light

829
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:10,320
and all these things and and the idea

830
00:29:15,289 --> 00:29:12,840
that we're in a Goldilocks uh Universe

831
00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:15,299
where everything is exactly the way it

832
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:16,919
should be and if the one thing was off

833
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,080
white one tenth of a percent or one

834
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:20,880
millionth of a percent the Stars

835
00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:22,020
wouldn't form and all this kind of stuff

836
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,460
so you have all these constants that

837
00:29:28,330 --> 00:29:25,440
show that it's everything's perfect and

838
00:29:30,889 --> 00:29:28,340
Jimmy blachette has has come up with

839
00:29:32,510 --> 00:29:30,899
absolutely amazing stuff that that he's

840
00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:32,520
was sort of giving a sort of a long

841
00:29:36,769 --> 00:29:34,500
story but it's basically linking

842
00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:36,779
everything together all the the

843
00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:41,100
constants all the the uh the various uh

844
00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:43,620
the speed of light the uh weight of the

845
00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:46,020
the atom uh the volume of the universe

846
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:47,580
all this kind of stuff and he's got it

847
00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:49,380
all to put together with very simple

848
00:29:53,330 --> 00:29:52,200
formulas that uh that uh is just

849
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:53,340
stunning when you see him just go

850
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:54,840
through these formulas and he's

851
00:29:59,210 --> 00:29:56,700
basically claiming that he was given

852
00:30:00,830 --> 00:29:59,220
this stuff uh based upon a sighting of a

853
00:30:02,690 --> 00:30:00,840
triangle and he measured all the

854
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:02,700
measurements and stuff uh fascinating

855
00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:04,860
work but very complex and I think a lot

856
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,659
of people leave it because it's so

857
00:30:10,430 --> 00:30:08,880
mathematical that people just look at it

858
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,440
and their heads start to spin and they

859
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:13,200
just sort of walk away it's it's a lot

860
00:30:18,409 --> 00:30:16,140
of uh you know connections between the

861
00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:18,419
the pyramid and rentals from forest and

862
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,740
when you see these numbers he's like

863
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,080
within a one nautical mile of this and

864
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:23,760
whatnot it's just it's just like

865
00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:26,460
stunning but but that people don't it's

866
00:30:30,769 --> 00:30:28,740
because in the modern you know internet

867
00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:30,779
world people have an attention span of I

868
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:32,760
think they said what 17 seconds I mean

869
00:30:36,889 --> 00:30:34,980
people if you put out a two-hour video I

870
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:36,899
mean almost nobody except the hardcore

871
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,760
people are going to

872
00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:40,799
um to view it and I I was actually just

873
00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:42,600
looking at Jimmy blanchett's because he

874
00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:44,279
wants to do a different Tech technique I

875
00:30:48,529 --> 00:30:46,200
actually contacted

876
00:30:51,310 --> 00:30:48,539
um Brian Josephson who won the Nobel

877
00:30:54,590 --> 00:30:51,320
Prize for uh uh

878
00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:54,600
his his work in the physics in the 1990s

879
00:30:58,610 --> 00:30:57,299
with the blashette stuff and he said I

880
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,620
don't have two hours to watch the video

881
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,240
and then I sent him the short version

882
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:02,880
and he he really didn't agree with it he

883
00:31:06,769 --> 00:31:05,220
didn't think it was it was plausible but

884
00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:06,779
that's the whole deal is that people

885
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:08,760
just don't have the time to to view it

886
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:11,700
and therefore you get like on his videos

887
00:31:16,730 --> 00:31:14,340
I put it up twice and we got five shares

888
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:16,740
so basically all we're doing in the UFO

889
00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:18,419
communities we just keep talking to the

890
00:31:21,289 --> 00:31:19,860
choir and we talk to the choir we talk

891
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:21,299
to the choir and then we get so upset

892
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:23,340
like well how come the uh the world

893
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,960
doesn't want to they don't know what's

894
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,399
going on here and this sort of stuff and

895
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:27,840
it's because if you were to question

896
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,360
anybody on the street of their top 100

897
00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:32,159
issues UFOs is not going to be in the

898
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,020
top 100 issues we've sort of got

899
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:35,760
everything out of perspective as to how

900
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,500
it's an important issue but so is

901
00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:39,600
Childhood Cancer and just because you

902
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:40,620
know that's an important issue doesn't

903
00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:41,820
mean everybody's going to drop you know

904
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:43,500
taking their kids to soccer practice and

905
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:45,960
quit their job to do this it's it's uh

906
00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:48,360
it's a world where if it's of complex

907
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:49,620
Theory nobody's going to pay attention

908
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:50,640
to it everybody's looking at the

909
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:52,380
cartoons and the and the very simple

910
00:31:54,649 --> 00:31:53,760
things where they can just click and go

911
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:54,659
to the next one and the next one

912
00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:56,100
especially if you see someone on a bus

913
00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:58,380
it's just unreal I watch them and

914
00:32:00,409 --> 00:31:59,640
they're just going through the you can

915
00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:00,419
see they're going through their Facebook

916
00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:02,100
feed and they're going out like a mile a

917
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,720
minute nobody's paying any attention to

918
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:05,760
anything anymore these days

919
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:09,000
yeah I've seen that too here's a here's

920
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:11,880
a uh here's an another one here Mary

921
00:32:16,370 --> 00:32:14,399
Grace always has great questions does

922
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,380
the Consciousness does the Consciousness

923
00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:19,200
create the physical object that can be

924
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,779
detected by our minds in Tech

925
00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:24,000
as well the the the Consciousness

926
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:25,380
creates the physical object yeah that's

927
00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:27,840
the whole quantum theory of the um the

928
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:30,179
the Dual slit experiment the idea that

929
00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:32,580
it's a it's a it's a wave and then the

930
00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:35,100
minute you uh view it or measure it then

931
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:37,260
it turns into a particle and that's the

932
00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:38,940
idea of the you know the Copenhagen

933
00:32:41,930 --> 00:32:40,380
interpretation of you break down the

934
00:32:44,029 --> 00:32:41,940
quantum wave and the and the matter

935
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:44,039
appears so there's no matter unless

936
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,720
there's an observer so people will say

937
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:47,279
well there's

938
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:49,020
um there there wasn't an observer until

939
00:32:52,669 --> 00:32:51,240
four billion years ago so we came we

940
00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:52,679
came on the scene but I say yeah there

941
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:55,020
was an observer because uh I even go as

942
00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:56,520
far as to say God did not create the

943
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,020
Heaven and the Earth God created the

944
00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:00,240
Sparks of the Divine and we created the

945
00:33:03,409 --> 00:33:01,440
heavens and the Earth because it's all

946
00:33:05,529 --> 00:33:03,419
made out of Consciousness so it's all

947
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:05,539
we're we're developing all the the world

948
00:33:09,649 --> 00:33:07,620
and it's all made out of Consciousness

949
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,659
we keep falling back into the illusion

950
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,279
that there's this physical world but if

951
00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:13,200
it's made out of Consciousness then we

952
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,760
created the whole thing and it just gets

953
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:16,640
more and more complex more information

954
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:19,980
uh bigger more Grand and stuff like this

955
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:21,960
and that's what it is it's just a an

956
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:24,000
information system that's that started

957
00:33:28,850 --> 00:33:27,059
very small and uh is is moving out so

958
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,860
consciousness absolutely creates the

959
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,720
physical world there's that I think I

960
00:33:34,009 --> 00:33:32,159
don't think even people in quantum

961
00:33:36,049 --> 00:33:34,019
physics would would deny that

962
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,059
well where where does Consciousness

963
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,120
begin with what type of level of

964
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:41,580
intelligence in other words can a fly

965
00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:44,279
have Consciousness well if Consciousness

966
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:46,260
is Basis then everything's got

967
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:48,059
Consciousness that's the idea if you do

968
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:50,580
the Ayahuasca thing if you see Sting the

969
00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:52,740
famous musician when he does Ayahuasca

970
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,299
he says I suddenly realized everything

971
00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:56,640
was alive conscious in one but a lot of

972
00:33:59,930 --> 00:33:58,019
people who do psychedelics will say that

973
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,940
everything was a life conscious and one

974
00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:01,440
he looked at the little plant coming out

975
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:02,940
of the crack and he said oh that's my

976
00:34:06,649 --> 00:34:04,620
brother and that's the whole idea the

977
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:06,659
Oneness principle that it's all made out

978
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,520
of Consciousness it's so conscious so

979
00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:10,320
the physical world according to the

980
00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:12,419
vibration idea would be that it's a low

981
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:15,000
vibrating Consciousness so it's like the

982
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:18,119
the Hindu thing when when Consciousness

983
00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:20,700
moves the illusion Begins the Maya

984
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:22,619
begins and it's all it's all illusion

985
00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:25,020
and a lot of the UFO channelers will say

986
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:26,940
this is all illusion it's all it's all

987
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,000
like a simulated uh universe and stuff

988
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,800
like that it and it's but the

989
00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:33,599
Consciousness is thing and so the basic

990
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,099
thing is if I were to go all the way

991
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:38,159
back Consciousness would be still and

992
00:34:42,349 --> 00:34:40,260
and it would be unmoving once the

993
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:42,359
Consciousness starts to vibrate that's

994
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:44,159
when the when the illusion starts and

995
00:34:47,629 --> 00:34:45,599
and it just gets more and more complex

996
00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:47,639
so everything is a vibration everything

997
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:50,700
is a frequency of vibration and it's a

998
00:34:54,409 --> 00:34:51,960
vibrating Consciousness but

999
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:54,419
Consciousness is primary and matter is

1000
00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:56,700
just a low vibrating Consciousness so

1001
00:35:01,130 --> 00:34:58,740
you can get uh the people whatever we're

1002
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,140
engaging is at a higher vibrating level

1003
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:03,119
experiences will describe this all the

1004
00:35:06,589 --> 00:35:04,800
time I could feel the vibration they

1005
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,599
were vibrating I couldn't take it they

1006
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,640
were vibrating very very intensely and

1007
00:35:12,650 --> 00:35:10,800
and it was affecting me and so they're

1008
00:35:15,650 --> 00:35:12,660
at a higher vibration so they'll come

1009
00:35:17,569 --> 00:35:15,660
into our field they will take on a body

1010
00:35:18,589 --> 00:35:17,579
that they need to be in our field and

1011
00:35:20,329 --> 00:35:18,599
then they'll go back where they came

1012
00:35:22,849 --> 00:35:20,339
from almost like the the thing that

1013
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,859
amazes me more than any other uh sort of

1014
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,240
thing that's happened will not last

1015
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,160
number of years is Leslie Kane talking

1016
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:27,839
about it being at the physical Seance

1017
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:29,460
and when I interviewed rice all I had

1018
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:31,500
was one question Leslie did you actually

1019
00:35:35,390 --> 00:35:33,240
see the hand Leslie did that actually

1020
00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:35,400
happen and she said yes it happened more

1021
00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:37,500
than once and she said it was a real

1022
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:39,900
physical hand that materialized in front

1023
00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:41,880
of me and I could feel the knuckles I

1024
00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:44,460
could feel the the bones I could it was

1025
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:46,680
warmer than a normal hand it was soft

1026
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,960
like a child's hand and then it banged

1027
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,119
on the table and then it dematerialized

1028
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:53,040
and left that's less it came from the

1029
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:54,660
New York Times and she said I saw it on

1030
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:56,280
more in one occasion so that's what's

1031
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:58,200
happening so you could they come in they

1032
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,460
lower their vibration they become

1033
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,440
physical even if I know if you've

1034
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:04,560
interviewed yossi Ronan from Israel he

1035
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,300
was told quite clearly he said when we

1036
00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:08,160
come into your world we take on a

1037
00:36:12,290 --> 00:36:09,960
physical body we don't have to take on a

1038
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:12,300
physical body but we do in order to

1039
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:14,280
communicate with you you can do the same

1040
00:36:19,069 --> 00:36:16,260
thing you just don't know it and that's

1041
00:36:20,810 --> 00:36:19,079
why you get so many different uh beings

1042
00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:20,820
that are seen in different versions of

1043
00:36:24,589 --> 00:36:22,500
beings it's because we're part of what

1044
00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:24,599
we're seeing we think it's a an object

1045
00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:26,339
out there and we don't realize that's

1046
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,960
where I I put all these Grays together

1047
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:29,520
and when you start looking at them they

1048
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,720
don't look the same they all look

1049
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:33,119
different or you see these pre-1961

1050
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,579
beings that are that are described and

1051
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:36,960
you start to realize that we're part of

1052
00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:39,540
it or John Mack said if you've seen that

1053
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,640
that interview that there's a thing that

1054
00:36:45,650 --> 00:36:43,920
John Mack did at Boston College or

1055
00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:45,660
something with with Bud Hopkins and he

1056
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,460
said Bud he says it's very strange he

1057
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:49,680
says you know I'm the psychiatrist here

1058
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,540
you know you think I'd be getting all

1059
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:53,760
the real bad ones I'm getting all the

1060
00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:55,320
spiritual seeking ones and you're

1061
00:36:59,930 --> 00:36:57,420
getting all the bad ones and maybe that

1062
00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:59,940
has more to do with you and I and this

1063
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,380
is the thing we keep thinking that it's

1064
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:03,119
an independent thing outside of us and

1065
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:04,800
we don't realize that we're part of the

1066
00:37:09,290 --> 00:37:07,020
system that we're actually looking at

1067
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:09,300
so how how does this

1068
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,740
how do things

1069
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,720
when it comes to behavior like for

1070
00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:14,160
instance you can't walk in front of a

1071
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:16,020
train you know

1072
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:18,780
um life and death uh people killing each

1073
00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:22,320
other in Russia Ukrainian Ukraine you

1074
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,060
know stuff like that how does all this

1075
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:27,359
fit into the whole thing if it's not re

1076
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:29,820
if it's not if we're like making things

1077
00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:32,280
up Whatever It Is Well it's not that

1078
00:37:35,569 --> 00:37:33,480
we're making things up or creating

1079
00:37:37,069 --> 00:37:35,579
things so I mean if you take take a look

1080
00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:37,079
at the life and death thing we we've

1081
00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:39,900
bought into the the uh separation idea

1082
00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:41,820
so there's us and you it's like a

1083
00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:43,560
football game so there's my team and

1084
00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:44,820
then there's Martin Willis's team and

1085
00:37:48,410 --> 00:37:46,380
Martin Willis's team is a bunch of dirty

1086
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:48,420
dogs and the referees always pulling for

1087
00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:50,820
them and uh we're all cheering and we

1088
00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:52,859
pray to God before we go on to the field

1089
00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:55,500
and what it comes down to is the the

1090
00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:57,960
team that wins is the team that wins the

1091
00:38:00,050 --> 00:37:58,920
Super Bowl it's the team where

1092
00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:00,060
everybody's doing exactly what they're

1093
00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:01,380
supposed to doing where they're all

1094
00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:02,700
working like a little beehive and

1095
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:03,660
they're all doing exactly what they're

1096
00:38:07,609 --> 00:38:05,700
supposed to do and the world people get

1097
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,619
it all mixed up they think it's like a

1098
00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:09,119
world of good and bad and we're the good

1099
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,099
guys and there's the bad guys we have to

1100
00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:12,720
kill the bad guys and steal their stuff

1101
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,000
and do whatever and the world doesn't

1102
00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:17,040
care that the universe is absolutely

1103
00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:19,560
neutral doesn't care it's a world of Li

1104
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,660
of live and die live and die live and

1105
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:23,520
die live and die death is part of the

1106
00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:25,380
whole process if you take a look there's

1107
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,619
a statement is made that there's 100 of

1108
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:30,480
everything dies every year the human

1109
00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:31,740
being is one of the few things that

1110
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,720
lasts longer in a year you have all the

1111
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:35,579
ants are dying after a couple of uh

1112
00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:37,320
weeks or whatever you have massive

1113
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:39,300
amounts of stuff that's living dying and

1114
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:41,220
we say well it's death is evil so that

1115
00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:43,320
means a spider because the spider spends

1116
00:38:48,290 --> 00:38:45,960
his day uh trapping stuff in in his

1117
00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:48,300
little web and killing it and eating it

1118
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:50,700
that's is evil no it life life and death

1119
00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:53,880
is is is is is uh part of the system and

1120
00:38:57,890 --> 00:38:55,800
and I even say the only the only thing

1121
00:39:01,069 --> 00:38:57,900
that we get we think that we understand

1122
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,079
is that when the ego cell dies that's

1123
00:39:06,349 --> 00:39:03,119
when we get concerned so in our human

1124
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,359
body there's 330 billion cells die on

1125
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,119
command every day it's it's it's they're

1126
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,240
programmed to die 330 million cells and

1127
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:14,640
do we give a compassion meditation for

1128
00:39:18,050 --> 00:39:16,380
those cells that die no it's only when

1129
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,060
the ego cell dies then it's like hey

1130
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:20,640
call 9-1-1 we don't care about the cells

1131
00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:21,900
that are dying the animals that are

1132
00:39:25,550 --> 00:39:23,940
dying we killed 40 million cattle every

1133
00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:25,560
year we worry about Cattlemen relations

1134
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:28,020
ten thousand calories and we we mutilate

1135
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,180
40 million cows a year and we chop them

1136
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,160
into little pieces and we we use every

1137
00:39:35,569 --> 00:39:34,079
little piece of them we we have this

1138
00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:35,579
idea of good and bad that we've

1139
00:39:40,609 --> 00:39:37,619
interpreted from the Christians we have

1140
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:40,619
to go to a world where everything has a

1141
00:39:44,810 --> 00:39:42,780
purpose everything is is there for a

1142
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:44,820
reason and that's like the idea that God

1143
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:46,980
created pain for a reason that that life

1144
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:49,260
and death is part of the process and one

1145
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:50,400
of the other things that was given to me

1146
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,440
in the second download that I got was

1147
00:39:56,569 --> 00:39:54,960
the thing was if it's one life yeah

1148
00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:56,579
that's one world with certain rules and

1149
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,339
regulations but if it's multiple lives

1150
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:02,160
then everything changes so if you got

1151
00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:04,200
abducted three lifetimes ago all right

1152
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,940
and you you get it in aggression are you

1153
00:40:09,650 --> 00:40:07,440
going to be all sort of upset because

1154
00:40:11,329 --> 00:40:09,660
you got it abducted three you'll say

1155
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:11,339
that's pretty cool I mean I yeah it was

1156
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:13,020
pretty cool or three lifetimes from now

1157
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,400
you're going to suddenly realize oh I

1158
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:16,079
was Martin Willis and I ran this UFO

1159
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:18,180
podcast and and I had these UFO

1160
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:19,260
experiences and stuff you're gonna

1161
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:20,640
you're gonna go that's pretty cool it's

1162
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:22,320
only when we're in the time and the

1163
00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:24,660
place right now and we believe in ego we

1164
00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:27,180
believe in it's me uh against the world

1165
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:28,920
and we want to play the victim we don't

1166
00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:31,020
want to do the the Oneness thing we want

1167
00:40:33,770 --> 00:40:32,460
to do the separation thing because if we

1168
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,780
do the separation thing then we can

1169
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:35,280
blame the government we can blame our

1170
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,839
mother-in-law we can blame the dog that

1171
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:38,640
ate the homework and we're the victims

1172
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,320
but if you are suddenly part of the

1173
00:40:44,270 --> 00:40:42,720
system and and and you're you're

1174
00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:44,280
responsible for what you're doing and

1175
00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:45,660
you can't play the victim then things

1176
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:48,320
start to solve but we we've been

1177
00:40:52,849 --> 00:40:50,880
brought up almost like dick Hart said

1178
00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:52,859
people get confused about this skeptical

1179
00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:54,540
thing that Descartes brought up with the

1180
00:40:58,910 --> 00:40:56,760
scientific method and what the card I

1181
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:58,920
say didn't say was be skeptical of new

1182
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,260
ideas he said you'd be skeptical of old

1183
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,359
ideas almost like Mark Twain says it's

1184
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:05,280
not the stuff that you don't know that

1185
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,140
hurts you it's the stuff that you

1186
00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:09,839
believe that ain't so that hurts you and

1187
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:12,300
that's the the idea that that the card

1188
00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:14,280
says I have to get rid of everything

1189
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:17,460
I've learned he realized that that it's

1190
00:41:22,370 --> 00:41:19,380
the stuff that we so we we start off we

1191
00:41:24,170 --> 00:41:22,380
say uh the The World is Flat wrong the

1192
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:24,180
Sun goes around the earth wrong the

1193
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,260
we're at the center of the universe

1194
00:41:28,609 --> 00:41:27,119
wrong there's only one Galaxy people

1195
00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:28,619
don't realize this was only a hundred

1196
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:31,320
years ago 1925 the big debate between

1197
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:34,680
Shockley and and Hubble and sharply the

1198
00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:37,920
top authority on cosmology and astronomy

1199
00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:39,960
was fighting and saying there is only

1200
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:42,540
one Galaxy Andromeda is just a cloud

1201
00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:44,579
Inside the Milky Way galaxy there was

1202
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,440
only one Galaxy and we just realized

1203
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:48,240
that this is wrong this is wrong or Max

1204
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:51,720
Planck's advisor 1874 no use going into

1205
00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:55,079
physics uh Max we know everything we've

1206
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:56,280
discovered it all we've got it all

1207
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:57,599
figured out that's the mistake we're

1208
00:42:01,970 --> 00:41:58,980
making we think we got it all figured

1209
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:01,980
out and and that's where we get off off

1210
00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:04,260
the off track and we start to believe

1211
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,660
this kind of stuff and that's where I

1212
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:09,359
the Gary Nolan describes the I think the

1213
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,119
best Gary Nolan says the idea that one

1214
00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:14,880
One cases anecdotal two is evidence and

1215
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:16,020
then the other thing he says it's

1216
00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:17,640
important he says I'm interested in the

1217
00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:19,500
five percent that don't fall inside the

1218
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,420
bell curve I ask students when they show

1219
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:23,760
me a paper or or something I say hey

1220
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:25,320
that thing outside what's that all about

1221
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:27,240
why why'd that happen and then they go I

1222
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:28,440
don't know and he said that's where the

1223
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:32,160
Nobel prizes come from so if if UFO

1224
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:33,720
anomalies

1225
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,960
were if the physical world was was the

1226
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:39,119
way people think it is then there would

1227
00:42:43,609 --> 00:42:40,980
be no UFO there would be no physical

1228
00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:43,619
anomalies the the fact that UFOs exist

1229
00:42:48,349 --> 00:42:46,320
and paranormal stuff exists tends to

1230
00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:48,359
indicate we've got something wrong we've

1231
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:49,980
got it there's a Nobel Prize there if

1232
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:51,480
you figure it out but as long as we

1233
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,980
believe that we've got it all figured

1234
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,440
out and we and we stick to that that

1235
00:42:59,870 --> 00:42:57,839
sort of thing that's why the the UFO

1236
00:43:01,970 --> 00:42:59,880
thing I say is the Super Bowl of all

1237
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,980
stories that if you realize you're not

1238
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:03,839
most people have lived lives of quiet

1239
00:43:07,490 --> 00:43:05,640
desperation they haven't got a clue

1240
00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:07,500
what's going on you and I actually know

1241
00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:09,420
we actually have some idea that hey

1242
00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:10,920
something might be going on we're inside

1243
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:12,780
the Super Bowl we may be playing The

1244
00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:14,280
Waterboy or the quarterback or whatever

1245
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,380
but we're we're watching it but we're

1246
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:18,240
inside the stadium we know this is going

1247
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,520
on and we should be proud that we got to

1248
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:22,560
play this role because you know hundreds

1249
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:23,640
of years from now we're going to be

1250
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:25,500
famous people because we played this

1251
00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:27,540
role and we have to realize but we've

1252
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,300
we've got to go and stay open-minded to

1253
00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:32,400
realize that if the physical world were

1254
00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:34,440
right nothing this stuff wouldn't be

1255
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:35,940
happening it's just telling us there's

1256
00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:38,460
an anomaly and that means some of the

1257
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,200
pieces that you think are right like the

1258
00:43:44,569 --> 00:43:41,760
Flat Earth Sun going around the earth

1259
00:43:46,370 --> 00:43:44,579
whatever everything's solid some of that

1260
00:43:49,370 --> 00:43:46,380
stuff ain't going to be right we have to

1261
00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:49,380
be open enough to realize that that this

1262
00:43:54,290 --> 00:43:52,200
is and and follow people who are are I

1263
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:54,300
say rather than the report because the

1264
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:55,440
report's not going to tell you anything

1265
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:58,140
this this government report they're not

1266
00:44:01,970 --> 00:44:00,420
about to roll over and play dead I still

1267
00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:01,980
say you've got to go to the people who

1268
00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:03,900
are engaging the phenomena and that's

1269
00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:05,160
for example what they did to Chris

1270
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:07,020
Bledsoe he talked to he had all these

1271
00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:08,520
high-level government military people

1272
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,200
around him and he said to the one guy

1273
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:12,000
one time he says okay I need to know

1274
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:13,800
everybody on my property for like what

1275
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:15,180
are you guys all doing here like what's

1276
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,160
the deal and the guy says to me says

1277
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,160
well Chris it appears uh it appears

1278
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:22,079
they're all around you Chris it appears

1279
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,180
they like you they don't like us because

1280
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,160
they don't appear around us we can't get

1281
00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:28,319
them to make contact so we're here to

1282
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,880
find out what they're telling you and

1283
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:31,440
that's the whole deal you get these

1284
00:44:36,349 --> 00:44:32,940
people and you wonder like and that's

1285
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:36,359
what uh what uh Tyler D did Tyler D was

1286
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:38,040
investigating Chris Bledsoe he had an

1287
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:40,020
experience or he had two experiences he

1288
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:41,760
introduced me to one of them as a girl

1289
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:44,040
that lived in Canada who she was writing

1290
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:45,780
all this stuff down for him all her

1291
00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:48,960
impression her paranormal stuff all her

1292
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:51,060
visions that she was getting and Tyler

1293
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:52,740
was writing all this stuff down he had

1294
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:54,660
all these experiences who were reporting

1295
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,040
all this stuff to him or when he went to

1296
00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:58,319
the Vatican he was interested in all the

1297
00:45:02,329 --> 00:45:00,300
reports from the the people who were

1298
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:02,339
levitating because he figured that he

1299
00:45:05,690 --> 00:45:03,780
could learn something as an engineer

1300
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,700
from people who are levitating by the

1301
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:07,680
reports as to how these guys levitated

1302
00:45:10,609 --> 00:45:09,240
and all the stuff was in the Vatican

1303
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,619
Library that's what we've got to do is

1304
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,480
is open up to the fact that these people

1305
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,400
might have something to contribute and

1306
00:45:16,970 --> 00:45:15,839
that when you start looking and I

1307
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,980
absolutely maintain when you start

1308
00:45:20,329 --> 00:45:18,480
looking you start seeing these patterns

1309
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,339
especially the one where the craft is

1310
00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:21,839
bigger on the inside and then this guy's

1311
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:23,700
in the spirit world he's describing this

1312
00:45:26,569 --> 00:45:24,780
building in the spirit world that's

1313
00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:26,579
bigger and I'm going hey I've heard this

1314
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:28,740
story and this is you hear this over and

1315
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:30,900
over again with the with the UFO

1316
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:33,180
experiences is this bizarre things that

1317
00:45:37,069 --> 00:45:35,460
they tell you you and then you relate it

1318
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:37,079
and you find out it's happening in all

1319
00:45:41,329 --> 00:45:38,640
sorts of other paranormal experiences as

1320
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:41,339
well I remember Travis Walton saying

1321
00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:45,420
that he stepped out of like a crafter

1322
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:48,060
stepped out of something and it was huge

1323
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,200
inside

1324
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:50,880
yeah then that that's the thing and

1325
00:45:54,109 --> 00:45:52,500
there's a lot of people reporting I

1326
00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:54,119
remember I I was talking to the free

1327
00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:56,460
people and I said to them I think it was

1328
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,859
14 according to the free survey people

1329
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,480
said they had flown the crop and I said

1330
00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:02,880
uh we should we should do another poll

1331
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:04,020
because what they would do is they would

1332
00:46:07,609 --> 00:46:05,940
do a poll for example they did a poll on

1333
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:07,619
the nine percent of people who said that

1334
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,359
the the alien they believed the alien

1335
00:46:11,809 --> 00:46:10,800
was evil and they went back to them and

1336
00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:11,819
said well why do you think they were

1337
00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:13,260
evil so they would go back and do a

1338
00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:14,940
second survey and I said we should go

1339
00:46:17,930 --> 00:46:16,260
back and do a second survey on the on

1340
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,940
the people who flown the craft because

1341
00:46:21,890 --> 00:46:20,400
you can say whatever you want when they

1342
00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:21,900
start flying the craft we should maybe

1343
00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:23,160
start paying attention because that's

1344
00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,180
what everybody's about was house

1345
00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:26,520
repulsive system work and uh then they

1346
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:27,780
said well lots of stuff happens inside

1347
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,160
the craft they're reporting stuff inside

1348
00:46:32,809 --> 00:46:31,200
the craft I said yeah that's fine if

1349
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:32,819
they describe there's no 45 degree

1350
00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:34,680
angles and it's white and all this kind

1351
00:46:37,609 --> 00:46:35,880
of stuff and there's the light doesn't

1352
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,619
come from anywhere which I experienced

1353
00:46:40,849 --> 00:46:39,599
uh but but if they start flying the

1354
00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:40,859
craft I mean don't you think we should

1355
00:46:44,089 --> 00:46:42,420
talk to these at least talk to them I

1356
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:44,099
mean but nobody wants to do it it's sort

1357
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:45,660
of like you know we're gonna do the

1358
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:47,160
sighting stuff and I say the sighting

1359
00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:48,480
stuff will tell you that something's

1360
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,520
going on that probably is on us but how

1361
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:52,319
many times can you recount how many red

1362
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,640
ones there are and how many green ones

1363
00:46:58,370 --> 00:46:55,440
there are and stuff and what you start

1364
00:46:59,809 --> 00:46:58,380
to see is that especially I was told I

1365
00:47:02,329 --> 00:46:59,819
know if you know the story about the the

1366
00:47:04,849 --> 00:47:02,339
people that went to the uh The Institute

1367
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,859
the Monroe Institute and one of them was

1368
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,480
a friend of mine and he said he was

1369
00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:08,880
shown a classified video a government

1370
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:13,380
video of a UFO morphing on camera and if

1371
00:47:17,630 --> 00:47:16,140
that's true get ready because it doesn't

1372
00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:17,640
matter what the craft looks like it can

1373
00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:19,140
look like whatever it wants it can

1374
00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:20,940
change shape do whatever it wants and

1375
00:47:24,349 --> 00:47:22,140
once you see that then you got to

1376
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:24,359
realize that this this tracking of what

1377
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,220
the thing looks like is it's a total

1378
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:28,079
waste of time when it when you get these

1379
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,300
people who are describing these these

1380
00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:31,680
experiences and you start seeing these

1381
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:34,920
very direct patterns 360 degree uh view

1382
00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:36,900
the idea that you become one of the

1383
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,900
craft the craft is alive and and uh you

1384
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:42,000
you whatever you think is what the craft

1385
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,220
does it's almost like people were were

1386
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,839
reading off the cue card I had the guy

1387
00:47:50,329 --> 00:47:48,000
who's the the my son's a pilot my

1388
00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:50,339
father's a pilot so I was talking to the

1389
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:52,980
Orange County group mifon group and and

1390
00:47:57,170 --> 00:47:55,380
we went to the dinner after the the you

1391
00:47:58,490 --> 00:47:57,180
know the restaurant and this guy came in

1392
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,500
his name was David and they said hey

1393
00:48:00,530 --> 00:47:59,520
David David should have been there

1394
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:00,540
Graham was talking about flying the

1395
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:02,339
craft tell them about your story and I

1396
00:48:05,569 --> 00:48:03,900
look at this guy and I said did you fly

1397
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,579
the craft he said well I think it was a

1398
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,440
dream I said yeah everybody thinks it's

1399
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:09,359
a dream and then they said David tell

1400
00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:11,220
them what you do and then and then I

1401
00:48:14,089 --> 00:48:12,420
said what do you what do you do he says

1402
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,099
I'm a pilot I said oh my son's a pilot

1403
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,599
my father's a pilot what kind of planes

1404
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:17,040
did you find he starts going this that

1405
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:20,339
he says f-16s I said you flew f-16s and

1406
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:22,619
he said yeah I was a I'm retired retired

1407
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,740
I flew a combat in Iraq I'm a retired US

1408
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:27,420
Air Force Colonel and I said sit down

1409
00:48:30,349 --> 00:48:28,920
and tell me your dream and then he was

1410
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:30,359
like just like reading off a cue card I

1411
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:32,280
come and here's an interesting one that

1412
00:48:35,569 --> 00:48:33,839
you may not have heard about they come

1413
00:48:37,309 --> 00:48:35,579
out they find themselves on the crop

1414
00:48:38,569 --> 00:48:37,319
very rarely are they LED under the crap

1415
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:38,579
they just suddenly find themselves on

1416
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:40,260
the craft and there's somebody behind

1417
00:48:43,609 --> 00:48:42,180
them so this U.S Air Force Colonel says

1418
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,619
there's two he says there's people

1419
00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:45,599
behind me he says I don't know if

1420
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:47,160
they're aliens or whether they're human

1421
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:49,260
beings and I'm standing in the middle of

1422
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,500
this craft and they say okay go ahead

1423
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,960
and do it and then I say and I heard

1424
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:56,640
this so many times as well the person

1425
00:49:01,250 --> 00:48:59,220
says I don't know what to do and then

1426
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,260
the voice behind them says you know what

1427
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,599
to do just do it and so he looks over at

1428
00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:05,280
this panel and he puts his hands on the

1429
00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:07,319
panel and he says holy cow he says

1430
00:49:10,910 --> 00:49:08,819
suddenly he's flying the he's flying the

1431
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,920
crowd and he takes his hand off and and

1432
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:12,480
he's waiting for the thing to stall he's

1433
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:14,040
going to put his hand back down and then

1434
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,540
then it doesn't stall and he takes his

1435
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:17,040
other hand but he's only that far above

1436
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:18,720
so he can put it down and then he says I

1437
00:49:21,890 --> 00:49:20,220
got both my hands off he says I'm flying

1438
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:21,900
the craft so you have this thing of

1439
00:49:25,849 --> 00:49:24,240
these people behind that that people

1440
00:49:27,890 --> 00:49:25,859
keep describing there's somebody behind

1441
00:49:29,569 --> 00:49:27,900
them that's talking so then I hear Jim

1442
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,579
semivan Jim semivan is giving an

1443
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,920
interview uh uh James Ian Dolly's

1444
00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:33,119
interviewing him so he's trying to get

1445
00:49:36,109 --> 00:49:34,440
him to talk about his experience which

1446
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:36,119
I've heard and he doesn't want to talk

1447
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,859
about his experience and then so James

1448
00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:39,599
says hey did you have any telepathy

1449
00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:40,619
while you're on board and everybody

1450
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:43,560
talks it's all telepathy so he says yeah

1451
00:49:49,010 --> 00:49:46,200
in fact he says I remember standing with

1452
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,020
my wife I'm standing with my wife and

1453
00:49:54,290 --> 00:49:51,839
there's this entity behind me and it had

1454
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,300
this Guardian kind of thing going on and

1455
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:56,160
as soon as he said that I went hey

1456
00:49:59,809 --> 00:49:57,960
that's Michael Newton that's Michael

1457
00:50:01,550 --> 00:49:59,819
Newton and that's why I realized what

1458
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,560
these people were talking about inside

1459
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:03,599
the craft that Michael Newton tells the

1460
00:50:06,290 --> 00:50:04,800
story that when you die you go in front

1461
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:06,300
of this Council between three and 12

1462
00:50:09,770 --> 00:50:08,099
people and you stand there and the

1463
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,780
spirit your spirit guide stands behind

1464
00:50:13,849 --> 00:50:11,520
you on the left-hand side so when I hear

1465
00:50:16,250 --> 00:50:13,859
Jim semivan say there was this entity

1466
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,260
standing behind me and it had this this

1467
00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:18,480
Guardian thing type type of thing going

1468
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:20,819
on I went holy cows I said to James I

1469
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,680
said ask him what side what side this

1470
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,720
being was standing on so you see start

1471
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:26,160
seeing these patterns people describe

1472
00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:27,720
this and if I were to go back I could

1473
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,540
re-ask all these questions but I I now

1474
00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:32,640
this story is contaminated so you know

1475
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,859
there's all I've got six six new

1476
00:50:37,790 --> 00:50:36,480
Witnesses but now the story sort of

1477
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:37,800
everybody knows about flying the craft

1478
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,900
so you can't really use it anymore but I

1479
00:50:43,130 --> 00:50:41,040
would go back and ask these questions

1480
00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:43,140
did you have 360 degree Vision I asked

1481
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:44,819
the one guy and he said yeah both

1482
00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:47,160
vertical and horizontal and that makes

1483
00:50:51,770 --> 00:50:48,839
no sense whatsoever or the first woman

1484
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:51,780
to vote me I was doing Consciousness uh

1485
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,660
at the world UFO conference in Phoenix

1486
00:50:58,609 --> 00:50:57,119
there and the they set me up at this

1487
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:58,619
moment I didn't know why they wanted me

1488
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,700
to set me up with this one when she was

1489
00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:02,160
in her 70s and I remember she they she

1490
00:51:05,089 --> 00:51:03,900
said what did what did Stacy tell you

1491
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:05,099
about me and I said I don't know I'm

1492
00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:06,480
just supposed to talk to you and so she

1493
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,280
comes in she said I was remote viewing

1494
00:51:12,109 --> 00:51:10,319
and I you know I'm psychic and I was

1495
00:51:13,490 --> 00:51:12,119
abducted and you hear all this stuff and

1496
00:51:15,290 --> 00:51:13,500
they say hey whatever whatever she's

1497
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,300
going on and then she says oh and I was

1498
00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:17,460
flying to craft last night and I go you

1499
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:19,319
were what all I could think about was

1500
00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:21,000
Saudi Arabian women they couldn't drive

1501
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,400
a car without a a man in the car and I

1502
00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:25,440
go you are what she's I was flying the

1503
00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:27,780
craft I said you were because she's like

1504
00:51:31,490 --> 00:51:29,579
under 70s and she's a woman I go you

1505
00:51:32,930 --> 00:51:31,500
were flying the craft yeah I was flying

1506
00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:32,940
the craft I found three different models

1507
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:34,500
and I was so frust I was either gonna

1508
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,640
throw her out of the room but then I

1509
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,920
figured like okay I saw you fly a craft

1510
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:39,599
he says oh you do it with your mind as

1511
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:40,800
soon as she said that I realized where

1512
00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:42,359
they'd set me up and they were the same

1513
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,500
thing like how do you flag craft the

1514
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:44,640
people would say I've flown the craft

1515
00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:45,780
and then I would say so how do you

1516
00:51:49,609 --> 00:51:47,160
flatcraft they say oh you do it with

1517
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:49,619
your mind and the same thing you did the

1518
00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:50,880
chances that you're going to have 36

1519
00:51:55,069 --> 00:51:53,339
people nobody ever said anything

1520
00:51:56,930 --> 00:51:55,079
different they all said the same thing

1521
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,940
you fly it with your mind so what's the

1522
00:52:00,890 --> 00:51:59,040
chances that 36 random people would come

1523
00:52:02,690 --> 00:52:00,900
to me it's more than 36 it's probably 46

1524
00:52:04,370 --> 00:52:02,700
now that would come to me and say I've

1525
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:04,380
flown the craft and all tells the same

1526
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,000
story there's something there and that's

1527
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,680
that's where I think we've got to go and

1528
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,119
we've got to take start taking these

1529
00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:10,800
people seriously and we can start to

1530
00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:12,180
learn stuff from this like what's

1531
00:52:16,849 --> 00:52:14,940
actually going on when uh when when

1532
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,859
people are describing this 360 degree

1533
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:18,720
Vision because there's there's people

1534
00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:21,059
who do blindfold I won't get into that

1535
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,680
blindfold seeing if you've ever seen

1536
00:52:25,970 --> 00:52:24,240
that they hold the stuff behind their

1537
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:25,980
head and they sit on it and they put it

1538
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,240
in front of them and stuff they got the

1539
00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:28,800
blindfold on and these people can read

1540
00:52:32,809 --> 00:52:30,780
it and I never realized that until I

1541
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,819
heard this story about the the fact that

1542
00:52:36,170 --> 00:52:34,559
you could see it is 360 degrees I'm

1543
00:52:37,849 --> 00:52:36,180
going hey that's like blindfold reading

1544
00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:37,859
that's the same thing and it's it's like

1545
00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:40,380
Ray Hernandez was told it's all the same

1546
00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:42,059
thing you guys have to quit parsing it

1547
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:44,220
it's all this Consciousness stuff that

1548
00:52:48,109 --> 00:52:45,839
is creating these these paranormal

1549
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:48,119
things and if we follow it I think

1550
00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:49,680
you're gonna find the those are only

1551
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:51,240
some of the patterns but I've got so

1552
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:52,559
many patterns that when you start taking

1553
00:52:55,490 --> 00:52:54,119
these people seriously you start

1554
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:55,500
realizing these patterns and then you

1555
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,140
can actually uh sort of vet these people

1556
00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:00,240
because you know exactly what what

1557
00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:01,680
they're going to say there's someone to

1558
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,240
make up a story I could pick it off

1559
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,559
because there's certain things almost

1560
00:53:07,849 --> 00:53:06,240
like Bud Hopkins used to do there's

1561
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:07,859
certain parts of the story that I don't

1562
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:09,720
tell because then I can check the person

1563
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:11,280
whether they're actually telling the

1564
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:13,200
same story as everybody else that's

1565
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:15,540
right hey Grant I can't believe how fast

1566
00:53:20,089 --> 00:53:17,940
this went it's unbelievable and I've

1567
00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:20,099
been having some internet issues I don't

1568
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:22,500
know if you've noticed it but anyway uh

1569
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:24,300
it seems like it's happening a lot here

1570
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:28,680
while I'm doing my show and anyway uh so

1571
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:32,040
much this is uh fascinating really

1572
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:35,220
fascinating thank you and yeah uh I do

1573
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:37,260
have an interest in the conscious

1574
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:40,200
Consciousness part of it really uh you

1575
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:43,020
know it's another a big puzzle and but

1576
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,400
thanks again I really appreciate it

1577
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:46,800
thank you all right and uh where can

1578
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:49,380
someone find your books on Amazon

1579
00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:52,740
uh Amazon yeah and um

1580
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,140
other than that my my Facebook is where

1581
00:53:59,390 --> 00:53:57,599
I Facebook is presidential UFO Facebook

1582
00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:59,400
that's where I usually post the latest

1583
00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:01,500
developments and we've got a number of

1584
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,700
new developments I haven't talked about

1585
00:54:08,329 --> 00:54:04,559
tonight but we've got we're working on

1586
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,339
some new uh thing for UFO photographs

1587
00:54:13,790 --> 00:54:10,559
that when I saw it I said to the guy

1588
00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:13,800
patent this as fast as you can these are

1589
00:54:18,829 --> 00:54:16,500
these young gun guys that are uh there's

1590
00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:18,839
one guy out of uh Wisconsin and one guy

1591
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,180
out of Chicago and they are on to

1592
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something that I think is revolutionary

1593
00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:25,500
in terms of UFO photographs unbelievable

1594
00:54:30,589 --> 00:54:28,260
wow interesting all right grant thanks

1595
00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:30,599
again talk to you later all right so

1596
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next week we'll be back with Rob of

1597
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swivec I don't know exactly how to

1598
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pronounce his name uh swai Tech

1599
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and uh he's a UFO researcher long time

1600
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one and thank you all everyone and

1601
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remember to keep your eyes